Comments on: SLU Cloister Walk, Best In Show http://www.beltstl.com/2008/11/slu-cloister-walk-best-in-show/ Built Environment in Layman's Terms Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:32:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 By: brian http://www.beltstl.com/2008/11/slu-cloister-walk-best-in-show/comment-page-1/#comment-804 brian Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:30:00 +0000 http://www.beltstl.com/?p=202#comment-804 And does anyone remember Peerless restaurant supply?! It was a poorly maintained wreck. I'm glad SLU bought them. Otherwise, it'd still look the same. And does anyone remember Peerless restaurant supply?! It was a poorly maintained wreck. I’m glad SLU bought them. Otherwise, it’d still look the same.

]]> By: GMichaud http://www.beltstl.com/2008/11/slu-cloister-walk-best-in-show/comment-page-1/#comment-803 GMichaud Sun, 21 Dec 2008 05:19:00 +0000 http://www.beltstl.com/?p=202#comment-803 Great photos, it looks nicer than I would have expected. Good design, at least there is an attempt at art.<br/>It is great you went to explore.<br/>The corner is a problem. At least with all of that green space it is still possible to put some low rise 3 to 6 story storefronts, (maybe on all four corners while saving the Pevely). <br/>The Fleur de lis are ill-proportioned and almost ugly. It's too bad because it can be a beautiful form. Great photos, it looks nicer than I would have expected. Good design, at least there is an attempt at art.
It is great you went to explore.
The corner is a problem. At least with all of that green space it is still possible to put some low rise 3 to 6 story storefronts, (maybe on all four corners while saving the Pevely).
The Fleur de lis are ill-proportioned and almost ugly. It’s too bad because it can be a beautiful form.

]]> By: supertaxicab http://www.beltstl.com/2008/11/slu-cloister-walk-best-in-show/comment-page-1/#comment-797 supertaxicab Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:26:00 +0000 http://www.beltstl.com/?p=202#comment-797 I just have to say that the last thing St. Louis needs is more green space facing the street. It needs well designed buildings. I just have to say that the last thing St. Louis needs is more green space facing the street. It needs well designed buildings.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.beltstl.com/2008/11/slu-cloister-walk-best-in-show/comment-page-1/#comment-791 Anonymous Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:37:00 +0000 http://www.beltstl.com/?p=202#comment-791 There was at least one viable buisness on the south side of the parsel, they supplied restaraunt equipment. SLU forced them out and have since moved the Westport area. It seems foolish to trade a nice building and a viable buisness for 50 feet of green space and a wall, no matter how good it looks.<br/><br/>Ah, the name of the company was Peerless Restaraunt Supply.<br/><br/>Frank There was at least one viable buisness on the south side of the parsel, they supplied restaraunt equipment. SLU forced them out and have since moved the Westport area. It seems foolish to trade a nice building and a viable buisness for 50 feet of green space and a wall, no matter how good it looks.

Ah, the name of the company was Peerless Restaraunt Supply.

Frank

]]> By: john w. http://www.beltstl.com/2008/11/slu-cloister-walk-best-in-show/comment-page-1/#comment-789 john w. Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:40:00 +0000 http://www.beltstl.com/?p=202#comment-789 Maybe the fleur-de-lis is actually a corn cob being dehusked, and it's a sign that SLU is planning to plant several acres of corn on that expanse, and use the cloister walk as a sales bazaar for those seeking to purchase freshly husked corn cobs. Maybe the fleur-de-lis is actually a corn cob being dehusked, and it’s a sign that SLU is planning to plant several acres of corn on that expanse, and use the cloister walk as a sales bazaar for those seeking to purchase freshly husked corn cobs.

]]> By: Vanishing STL http://www.beltstl.com/2008/11/slu-cloister-walk-best-in-show/comment-page-1/#comment-788 Vanishing STL Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:31:00 +0000 http://www.beltstl.com/?p=202#comment-788 Both the research building and the walkway are quite commendable from a design standpoint, except for the silly sign on top that looks at night like a giant ear of corn being dehusked. My problem with this whole ensemble is that it is an example of horrible planning! One building occupies FOUR square blocks of space that have been turned into a superblock. The building dangles in space from its elegant but poorly placed umbilical cord and holds neither the building line along Grand nor more importantly as Kara points out, the corner of a major City intersection. We can only hope that someday in the future all that wasted space will be filled with more research or med school buildings, but I'm not holding my breath. Its simply ONE MORE example of SLU injecting suburban planning ideals over the City with disastrous results. Both the research building and the walkway are quite commendable from a design standpoint, except for the silly sign on top that looks at night like a giant ear of corn being dehusked. My problem with this whole ensemble is that it is an example of horrible planning! One building occupies FOUR square blocks of space that have been turned into a superblock. The building dangles in space from its elegant but poorly placed umbilical cord and holds neither the building line along Grand nor more importantly as Kara points out, the corner of a major City intersection. We can only hope that someday in the future all that wasted space will be filled with more research or med school buildings, but I’m not holding my breath. Its simply ONE MORE example of SLU injecting suburban planning ideals over the City with disastrous results.

]]> By: brian http://www.beltstl.com/2008/11/slu-cloister-walk-best-in-show/comment-page-1/#comment-787 brian Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:11:00 +0000 http://www.beltstl.com/?p=202#comment-787 Point taken, but there was nothing there to begin with. Maybe 100 years ago there was, but not in recent memory. If there had been an urban streetscape razed in the name of the research center I would have a complete change of heart. All I'm saying is that what's there now sure beats what was there ten years ago so I see no reason to complain about it. Point taken, but there was nothing there to begin with. Maybe 100 years ago there was, but not in recent memory. If there had been an urban streetscape razed in the name of the research center I would have a complete change of heart. All I’m saying is that what’s there now sure beats what was there ten years ago so I see no reason to complain about it.

]]> By: supertaxicab http://www.beltstl.com/2008/11/slu-cloister-walk-best-in-show/comment-page-1/#comment-786 supertaxicab Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:03:00 +0000 http://www.beltstl.com/?p=202#comment-786 I must agree with the naysayers. The tail is not terrible, but its relationship to Grand and Chouteau is deplorable, yet another example that SLU wishes to invest in their campus but not in integrating it into the city. Wouldn't it have been possible to create a cloister garden like this in the interior of a building complex that respected the street wall? I must agree with the naysayers. The tail is not terrible, but its relationship to Grand and Chouteau is deplorable, yet another example that SLU wishes to invest in their campus but not in integrating it into the city. Wouldn’t it have been possible to create a cloister garden like this in the interior of a building complex that respected the street wall?

]]> By: brian http://www.beltstl.com/2008/11/slu-cloister-walk-best-in-show/comment-page-1/#comment-784 brian Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:54:00 +0000 http://www.beltstl.com/?p=202#comment-784 I am all about preservation, but sometimes you have to be realistic. Before the new research center was there, there was nothing. At least nothing notable that I remember and I've driven by there everyday for eight years. The building is certainly not offensive and has beautiful grounds. And because of who owns it, we can pretty well guarantee it will still look pristine twenty years from now and beyond. As a resident of the area I'm happy to see something there besides open land and a few derelict buildings. I am all about preservation, but sometimes you have to be realistic. Before the new research center was there, there was nothing. At least nothing notable that I remember and I’ve driven by there everyday for eight years. The building is certainly not offensive and has beautiful grounds. And because of who owns it, we can pretty well guarantee it will still look pristine twenty years from now and beyond. As a resident of the area I’m happy to see something there besides open land and a few derelict buildings.

]]> By: Kara http://www.beltstl.com/2008/11/slu-cloister-walk-best-in-show/comment-page-1/#comment-783 Kara Mon, 24 Nov 2008 21:36:00 +0000 http://www.beltstl.com/?p=202#comment-783 While this building covered walkway looks stunning in these photos, in real life this design has created a bleak and empty corner at Grand and Chouteau. The building calls attention to itself with its grandness, while at the same time has no meaningful relationship to the Pevely building or the major intersection of our city that it sits on. While this building covered walkway looks stunning in these photos, in real life this design has created a bleak and empty corner at Grand and Chouteau. The building calls attention to itself with its grandness, while at the same time has no meaningful relationship to the Pevely building or the major intersection of our city that it sits on.

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